African Oral Narratives
Military Intelligence in Apartheid-era South Africa

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An interview with Vic McPherson regarding the bombing of the ANC offices in Lusaka on June 5, 1985.

Date: February 9, 2009
This interview with Vic McPherson, a former undercover policeman in the SAP Security Branch, regarding the bombing of the ANC offices in Lusaka on June 5, 1985, consists of an audio recording, transcript and English translation. This interview was conducted, transcribed and translated by De Wet Potgieter on behalf of SAHA in 2009.

An interview with Vic McPherson regarding interviewee's involvement in the SAP security branch.

Date: February 9, 2009
This interview with Vic McPherson, a former undercover policeman in the SAP Security Branch, regarding his involvement in the Security Branch, consists of an audio recording, transcript and English translation. This interview was conducted, transcribed and translated by De Wet Potgieter on behalf of SAHA in 2009.

An interview with Vic McPherson regarding the planned bombing of the ANC executive council during the Arusha Conference in Tanzania, 1987.

Date: February 9, 2009
This interview with Vic McPherson, a former undercover policeman in the SAP Security Branch, regarding the planned bombing of the ANC executive council during the Arusha Conference in Tanzania in 1987, consists of an audio recording, transcript and English translation. This interview was conducted, transcribed and translated by De Wet Potgieter on behalf of SAHA in 2009.

An interview with Vic McPherson regarding the interviewee's, and other agents', involvement in the London bomb, 1982.

Date: February 9, 2009
This interview with Vic McPherson, a former undercover policeman in the SAP Security Branch, regarding his, and other agents', involvement in the London bomb in 1982, consists of an audio recording, transcript and English translation. This interview was conducted, transcribed and translated by De Wet Potgieter on behalf of SAHA in 2009.

An interview with Chris Thirion regarding the cause of events leading up to the dismissal of senior officers in the SADF by FW de Klerk in 1992.

Date: June 15, 2009
This interview with Chris Thirion, a former deputy chief of staff intelligence of the SADF, regarding the cause of events leading up to the dismissal of senior officers in the SADF by FW de Klerk in 1992, consists of an audio recording, transcript and English translation. This interview was conducted, transcribed and translated by De Wet Potgieter on behalf of SAHA in 2009.

An interview with General Johann van der Merwe regarding the poisoning of Rev. Frank Chikane in 1987.

Date: July 7, 2009
This interview with General Johann van der Merwe, a former commissioner of the SAP, regarding the poisoning of Rev. Frank Chikane in 1987, consists of an audio recording, transcript and English translation. This interview was conducted, transcribed and translated by De Wet Potgieter on behalf of SAHA in 2009.

An interview with General Herman Stadler regarding the South African Defence Force's attack on the ANC bases in Botswana (reported at the time as the 'Guns of Gaborone'), 1985.

Date: August 31, 2009
This interview with General Herman Stadler, a former head of the SAP Security Branch Intelligence Unit, regarding the SADFs attack on the ANC bases in Botswana in 1985, consists of an audio recording, transcript and English translation. This interview was conducted, transcribed and translated by De Wet Potgieter on behalf of SAHA in 2009.

An interview with General Herman Stadler regarding Dieter Gerhardt's arrest as a Russian spy.

Date: August 31, 2009
This interview with General Herman Stadler, a former head of the SAP Security Branch Intelligence Unit, regarding Dieter Gerhardt's arrest as a Russian spy, consists of an audio recording, transcript and English translation. This interview was conducted, transcribed and translated by De Wet Potgieter on behalf of SAHA in 2009.

An interview with Henk Heslinga regarding the assassination of the former moderator of the Dutch Reformed Church, professor Johan Heyns on November 5, 1994.

Date: October 5, 2009
This interview with Henk Heslinga, a former head of the Pretoria murder and robbery squad, double agent, and member of the Goldstone Commission, regarding the assassination of the former moderator of the Dutch Reformed Church, professor Johan Heyns, on November 5, 1994, consists of an audio recording, transcript and English translation. This interview was conducted, transcribed and translated by De Wet Potgieter on behalf of SAHA in 2009.

An interview with Henk Heslinga regarding the allegations against Winnie Mandela for her alleged involvement in the death of her personal physician, Dr Abubaker Asvat, 1989.

Date: October 5, 2009
This interview with Henk Heslinga, a former head of the Pretoria murder and robbery squad, double agent, and member of the Goldstone Commission, regarding the allegations against Winnie Mandela for her alleged involvement in the death of her personal physician, Dr Abubaker Asvat in 1989, consists of an audio recording, transcript and English translation. This interview was conducted, transcribed and translated by De Wet Potgieter on behalf of SAHA in 2009.

An interview with Henk Heslinga regarding the interviewee's involvement in the Goldstone Commission's investigations, 1992.

Date: October 5, 2009
This interview with Henk Heslinga, a former head of the Pretoria murder and robbery squad, double agent, and member of the Goldstone Commission, regarding his involvement in the Goldstone Commission's invesitigations in 1992, consists of an audio recording, transcript and English translation. This interview was conducted, transcribed and translated by De Wet Potgieter on behalf of SAHA in 2009.

An interview with General Tienie Groenewald regarding the threat of civil war at the beginning of 1994.

Date: October 12, 2009
This interview with General Tienie Groenewald, a former chief director of Military Intelligence, regarding the threat of civil war at the beginning of 1994 before the country's first democratic elections, consists of an audio recording, transcript and English translation. This interview was conducted, transcribed and translated by De Wet Potgieter on behalf of SAHA in 2009.

An interview with General Tienie Groenewald regarding the establishment of the Volksfront (People's Front).

Date: October 12, 2009
This interview with General Tienie Groenewald, a former chief director of Military Intelligence, regarding the establishment of the Volksfront (People's Front), consists of an audio recording, transcript and English translation. This interview was conducted, transcribed and translated by De Wet Potgieter on behalf of SAHA in 2009.

An interview with Colonel Lucas Ras regarding interrogation techniques used by the security police.

Date: October 26, 2009
This interview with Colonel Lucas Ras, a former colonel in the SAP Security Branch's D branch unit, regarding interrogation techniques used by the security police, consists of an audio recording, transcript and English translation. This interview was conducted, transcribed and translated by De Wet Potgieter on behalf of SAHA in 2009.

An interview with Colonel Lucas Ras regarding Umkhonto we Sizwe (MK) informants.

Date: October 26, 2009
This interview with Colonel Lucas Ras, a former colonel in the SAP Security Branch's D branch unit, regarding Umkhonto we Sizwe (MK) informants, consists of an audio recording, transcript and English translation. This interview was conducted, transcribed and translated by De Wet Potgieter on behalf of SAHA in 2009.

An interview with Colonel Lucas Ras regarding far right-wing activities, how effective they were and how they were infiltrated by the security police.

Date: October 26, 2009
An interview with Colonel Lucas Ras, a former colonel in the SAP Security Branch's D branch unit, regarding far right-wing activities, how effective they were and how they were infiltrated by the security police, consists of an audio recording, transcript and English translation. This interview was conducted, transcribed and translated by De Wet Potgieter on behalf of SAHA in 2009.

An interview with Inspector Joppie van Staden regarding the nature of the interviewee's work in the bomb disposal unit.

Date: December 8, 2009
This interview with Inspector Joppie van Staden, a former police inspector attached to the bomb disposal unit, regarding the nature of his work in the bomb disposal unit, consists of an audio recording, transcript and English translation. This interview was conducted, transcribed and translated by De Wet Potgieter on behalf of SAHA in 2009.

First part of an interview with Inspector Joppie van Staden regarding the riot squad, Unit 19.

Date: December 8, 2009
This is the first part of an interview with Inspector Joppie van Staden, a former police inspector attached to the bomb disposal unit, regarding the riot squad, Unit 19, and consists of an audio recording, transcript and English translation. This interview was conducted, transcribed and translated by De Wet Potgieter on behalf of SAHA in 2009.

Second part of an interview with Inspector Joppie van Staden regarding the riot squad, Unit 19.

Date: December 8, 2009
This is the second part of the interview with Inspector Joppie van Staden, a former police inspector attached to the bomb disposal unit, regarding the riot squad, Unit 19, and consists of an audio recording, transcript and English translation. This interview was conducted, transcribed and translated by De Wet Potgieter on behalf of SAHA in 2009.

An interview with Detective Warrant Officer Drummond Hammond regarding the intelligence networks running from South Africa to the neighbouring countries, and about "Dad" (Steve Burnett).

Date: February 25, 2010
This interview with Detective Warrant Officer Drummond Hammond who was attached to the organised crime unit's intelligence unit, regarding the intelligence networks running from South Africa to the neighbouring countries, and about "Dad" (Steve Burnett), consists of an audio recording and transcript. This interview was conducted as one interview, and transcribed in two parts by De Wet Potgieter on behalf of SAHA in 2010.
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